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Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Controversy over the Tiger Mother

Maybe you guys have heard about this recent parenting memoir from a Chinese-American law prof at Yale who tried to raise her two daughters in the traditional, strict Chinese way. Here is an excerpt:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html

So of course the descriptions of verbal abuse and hours of forced piano practice rubbed many the wrong way, and Chua felt the need to explain herself on various interview shows: http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201101201000. She comes across as very open-minded and compassionate, the exact opposite tone of her WSJ piece.

I have not read her book, but the WSJ article suggests that the point of it is to promote the "Chinese way" of raising kids with obscene academic expectations (A- = F, get to Carnegie Hall or Harvard or both) and draconian rules (no TV, no sleepovers, no extra-curriculars except piano or violin, which they will have to practice 3 hrs/day even during vacations). Even the title, "Why Chinese Mothers are Superior" says it all. Chua's argument is basically Western parents spoil and coddle too much (maybe true), and if they truly love their kids, it behooves them to push them to excel and give them tools to survive in the cruel world, rather than constantly tolerating or even praising mediocrity and lack of direction. Previous emails have touched on this, and i think she has a point. But clearly the opposite extreme is not healthy either, and since many of us are children of Asian immigrants, we know that excessive micromanaging, criticism, and such may push us to get over the hump and into a good college, but may also end up damaging the parent-child relationship thereafter.

http://www.pacificcitizen.org/site/details/tabid/55/selectmoduleid/373/ArticleID/490/reftab/36/Default.aspx?title=The_Growing_Rate_of_Depression,_Suicide_Among_Asian_American_Students_

There are plenty of anecdotes of Asian-Americans grateful for their strict parents now that they have gone to MIT or become successful surgeons. These stories are counterbalanced by many alienated or strained family relationships, and worse tragedies. The incidence of depression and suicide among Asian-heritage students is higher than other races in America, and it's even worse in nations like India, Korea, and China with a super-competitive college preparatory process. I think Cho who killed all those people at Virginia Tech was raised very strictly and always told by his Asian immigrant parents that he wasn't good enough, and a failure compared to his older sister who went to the Ivy League. There's no point pushing a kid too far. You can't let your kid be a lazy slacker in life (well I guess you can, but there are consequences for that too), but there has to be a middle ground. 

So long story short, the WSJ article created a parenting buzz, the blogosphere lit up, and Chua was blitzed with mostly negative feedback. She then engaged in damage-control PR mode, claiming that WSJ chose that inflammatory title without her knowledge or permission, and her eldest 18-year-old daughter felt the need to write to the WSJ and defend her mother. Chua's explanation is that the book is exaggerating and satirical (half of the mean things she wrote about doing to her kids never actually happened), and that theme comes out if you read it, so the WSJ piece was taken out of context. In fact, after some resistance she finally let her kids volunteer, hang out with friends, and play tennis instead of piano. She says that she has a great, loving relationship with her kids, they've had many fun leisure times together, and they are not traumatized introverts or whatnot. Her book was meant to be a cautionary tale, as her journey climaxed in a big fight with her younger, more resistant daughter who finally told Chua that she had it. Chua realized that piano wasn't as important as losing her child, so she relented and vowed to change. So all the talk about the verbal abuse and forced practicing was a snapshot into the "bad mom" before she saw the light. That is all fair and good, but then why publish the misleading and limited WSJ piece? If I have one page to entice readers and give a glimpse of my relationship with my family, I probably wouldn't focus on the worst times.

Maybe it was just a strategic (and apparently successful) piece of marketing. She usually writes about foreign policy legal issues, so this was her first foray into pop literature. So why not make a big splash, ruffle feathers, and get people talking about a previously unknown?

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/blogs/the_angle/2011/01/amy_chua_manipu.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed6

But then what is her point? She claims to want to fight stereotypes about Asian parents, yet she writes a semi-fictional book with silly discipline stories that perpetuate some stereotypes? And without a disclaimer or explanatory note, how is the reader to really know what is factual? I didn't read the book so maybe her intentions would be clearer if i did, but humor and sarcasm are subjective and can be misinterpreted in print (I would know). I really took Chua's WSJ comments to be literal at first because I do know of real Asian parents who do things like that (no dinner if the kid gets an A-, hit them with a stick if they miss a note during piano practice, never saying good job or I love you, etc.), so I didn't know if she was mocking or promoting those tactics. I guess she tried some of it herself, so she must have bought into the approach, but later realized that she had to change. Unless she just wants to start a controversy and attract attention to boost sales, I don't know why she wrote the book in that manner. Just stick to the history, don't exaggerate to make a point. It's a memoir, there doesn't have to be an agenda.

Some Asian women have said that the last part of the book (where Chua and her younger daughter Lulu are really falling out) made them cry. So there is a good story arc there with conflict and redemption, but why not stick with that and dispense with the distracting exaggeration, parental politics, and ethnic-baiting at the beginning? She tried to do what she thought was best for her kids, she tried to love them in the best way she knew how, which was the strict example from her Chinese parents. And it worked for her apparently - she is a Yale prof, but so is her husband who grew up in a liberal, relaxed Jewish household, so there are many ways to nurture success and a kid's future is not 100% determined by parenting. She even attempted to train her dogs in the "Chinese way," and it failed miserably: "Don't you want them to realize their potential?" she asked her husband (OK, that is good humor to include). But later she realized that she didn't have it all figured out and had to change when she and Lulu had a breakdown. That is a great message for families of any race struggling with many of the same issues. Who wouldn't want to hear their mom admit that she was wrong? Why not put some of that in the WSJ? It would have made her look more reasonable and human instead of a psycho. But I guess her kids did accuse her of being that from time to time. They're already rich, why do they need to create a shit-storm around the book for sales? No one likes to get racist hate-mail all day saying they're a cold bitch. So basically, I think the controversy is not helpful to advance the discussion on good parenting and multiculturalism.


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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html

http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/p-s-you-suck/ 

As I am considering starting a family, my biggest fear is to get caught up in this competitive BS. My top goal would be to raise a kid who has good values and who respects him/herself and others. Someone who makes a positive difference and be a better person than I was. The last thing the world needs is another selfish, competitive jerk. I don't know how Chua's kids are in terms of manners, personality, morals. But for the successful peers I know who were raised by super strict Asian parents (who think A- = F), I find them to be shallow, narrow-minded, uninteresting, uncaring people when they were kids and as adults. All they know how to do is obey and study. It's almost like a hollow person. I don't want that for my kid.

So what if they don't win awards or go to Harvard? That is not the measure of a person's worth. Of course you want to equip kids to be able to survive in this cruel world (for all the advantages I had growing up, I am struggling now just to make ends meet and keep a job). You want to help your kids survive, but not at the cost of their soul and their honor. I'd rather my kid be happy going to San Jose State than pushing and fighting and being someone they're not just to get into Yale. All the religions talk about humility, living a balanced life, and putting others before you. It is totally opposite to be a crazy parent like Chua pushing their kids to be the best.

What is the point of being an expert in a musical instrument these days anyway? Either the kid is a prodigy or not, you can't "create" a Mozart. If a kid needs 3 hrs/day to be good at piano, maybe it's not what they were destined to do? I know practice makes perfect, but even very good musicians can't make a living doing that. Maybe it will help them get into an elite college, but think of all those hours Chua's kids have spent practicing those old symphonies. I'd rather teach my kids economics, computer programming, and more practical stuff. Even better, I'd rather they spend time VOLUNTEERING to help others (you can also put than on resume), or just reading and learning about the world. The more kids know, the better decisions they will make in life.

I think the kid who killed all those people at Virginia Tech was raised very strictly and always told by his Korean immigrant parents that he wasn't good enough, and a failure compared to his older sister who went to the Ivy League. There's no point pushing a kid too far. You can't let your kid be a lazy slacker in life, but there has to be a middle ground.

I'm sure you are familiar with the term "helicopter parent". This psychological study thinks that the emergence of helicopter parents in the US, but not in Canada, is due to the vast inequality in our colleges. In Canada, there are good and not-so-good schools too, but the difference is meager. Parenting is a lot more relaxed up there, and the kids turn out fine. In the US, your career prospects are so much different if you have a Harvard vs. a Chico State degree. And this fuels the ridiculous industry of trying to give kids every possible tutoring and extra-curricular and advantage or they will be "left behind". It's an interesting topic though. I am not a parent so I can't claim to know anything about what works and what doesn't, but I know that many parents go too far and miss the big picture. Do they push their kids out of love, or is it for their own egos and insecurities?

http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/03/23/helicopter-moms-sacrifice-self-for-kids/12322.html

Here's another longer article on the subject: http://nymag.com/news/features/67024/

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Interview with Amy Chua: http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201101201000

I found her interview very interesting, and I feel bad that I jumped to so many negative conclusions about Chua - but she didn't help herself with the bad press and lack of clarification on her part.

She is basically deflecting all the controversy about her book by saying that the book was taken out of context: definitely not a how-to guide for parenting, nor a promotion that the Chinese style of parenting is best. She admits that there is a lot of variation in parenting among Chinese, as well as other cultures who adopt the "Chinese style".

She is saying that half of the mean things she claimed to do to her kids never happened, and a lot of her writing is meant to be exaggerating and satirical. But you'd think that if Chua really just wanted to write a semi-fictional satirical memoir, there would be some sort of explanatory note in the book so it wouldn't be misinterpreted, as she is saying it is.

Chua said that the Chinese style wasn't working with her youngest, more resistant daughter, and it got to the point where she decided to change, because she feared losing her daughter after they had a big fight. Eventually Chua let her quit the violin and do tennis instead to be happier, because discipline without love is a recipe for disaster. So this book was meant to be a journey explaining some mistakes she made and the parenting lessons she learned. Her claims that A- is failure was an exaggeration, although all of us know parents who feel like that. Her message is that Western parents may have too low expectations, and are too quick to accept mediocre performance from their kids (maybe except for sports, where Western parents go crazy about football and Asians don't care). I guess Chua just wanted to make sure that her kids gave max effort and realized their potential. That is reasonable, but what do you do when the kids are not living up to your expectations - how do you motivate improvement without anger, threats, etc.?

I really took Chua's comments to be literal at first because I do know of real Asian parents who do things like that (no dinner if the kid gets an A-, hit them with a stick if they miss a note during piano practice, never saying good job or I love you, etc.), so I didn't know if she was mocking or promoting those tactics. I guess she tried them herself, so she must have bought into the approach, but later realized that she had to change. But unless she just wants to start a controversy and attract attention to boost sales, I don't know why she wrote the book in that manner. Just stick to the history, don't exaggerate to make a point. I didn't read the book so maybe her intentions would be clearer if i did, but the excerpt in the Wall St. Journal was taken out of context and it made it look like she was promoting harsh Chinese parenting. She says that WSJ did this without her knowledge, and even her eldest daughter wrote an op-ed defending her mom in the same paper.

Like in the interview, if she also communicated to the audience that she felt that her family was still a loving household, she currently has a good relationship with her kids, and that she hit bottom, doubted herself, and eventually relented, it would have made her look more reasonable and human instead of a psycho. But I guess her kids did accuse her of being that from time to time.

Monday, April 12, 2010

A medical explanation for Tiger Woods' promiscuity?

http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/2004/July/er%20july%2019/monogamy.html

This can't help his golf swing (not that he needs much), but it might help with his infidelity problem. An Emory Univ. lab studied two cousin vole species (a type of rodent): prairie vole and meadow vole. The former has monogamous mating practices (very rare in nature), and the latter is promiscuous. Those rodents are nearly identical, but differ in a gene that controls the expression of the vasopressin receptor in the ventral pallidum. In laymen terms, there's a certain molecule that captures neurotransmitter signals in a prominent pleasure/reward center of the brain. It's abundant in the monogamous voles and absent in the promiscuous voles. When the scientists spliced in the monogamous vole's gene into the promiscuous vole's brain, their behavior changed and became monogamous with their current mates. I wonder if the converse would happen if they knocked out the gene in the monogamous voles.

One disclaimer: rodents have a much stronger male sex drive than humans, so observed differences may be more pronounced. So what about in married humans? A more recent study showed that there is a correlation between the number of vasopressin receptors in the ventral pallidum and longevity of their relationship. General interpretation: the gene helps a male derive more pleasure/reward from the "romantic" interactions of monogamy, thereby making him more content with his mate and less likely to be pushed to promiscuity by his sex drive impulses. Other males, maybe like Tiger, could be genetically predisposed to enjoy monogamy less, and therefore pursue more carnal pleasure to compensate. Combine that with maybe an unusually strong libido in those men, and you have a biological recipe for cheating, which would appear to be hereditary as well. Some say that people cheat because they saw their parents cheat when they were young, but maybe it also has to do with the offspring inheriting the parents' "cheating" genes. Of course we'd like to think that we are not slaves to our impulses and nature, but they obviously play a role.

Maybe instead of Buddhism, Tiger needs a gene transplant! Though I'm sure the right combination of healthy habits, mental discipline, and honest communication can overcome these genetic predispositions for promiscuity.

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could this possibly be a new country western song?  your cheatin' genes? 
and, does this make tiger a rat?

let's just say that we are same as the mouse.  wouldnt it be a kicker if Tiger had the pleasure/reward gene or molecule thing? 

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Don't knock on Tiger.  He's fulfilling his destiny of changing society's outlook on human beings.  He's showing that us that we as humans have not evolved all that much and that we should just give into our animal instincts.  He's even dumb enough to get caught...and he went to Stanford! 

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Haha yeah his therapist should order a DNA test to see if he is missing the gene, then it's not his fault right? He can do a country duo with Garth Brooks about his problems!

That shameless Nike commercial of a "repentant" Tiger with the voice-over of his dead father just made me sick though, and Tiger said he loved it. How the hell does Tiger's personal stuff have anything to do with Nike trying to sell more product? I bet some 6-fig marketing a-hole in Beaverton felt really proud of himself after brainstorming this travesty. They are not his publicists, or are they? I thought their commercials depict sweaty jocks smashing each other; what's with this touchy-feely introspective crap? Don't they know that for every gullible consumer who might have been swayed by this ad (swayed to do what, I'd like to know), three more will be turned off or driven to ridicule it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56vI-YBqamw&feature=related
SNL parody: http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978165388&nav=Groupspace

Sorry this thread has degenerated into pop culture gossip, but I guess that has a place in our discussion club too!

PS - did you see that someone paid to fly a mocking Tiger banner over Augusta last week? The PGA guys must have convinced the FAA to shut them down over "safety violations".

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/plane-drags-banner-message-tiger-woods-sky-masters-tournament/