Thursday, April 11, 2013

David Stockman on the debt, Fed, etc.

I don't know much about Stockman's history, but he was Regan's budget director so that is a hit to credibility. And then when he had a "falling out" with Ronnie over tax cuts and spending, he went to Wall Street (whom he blames a lot for the Great Recession in his recent book). So that is strike two. But he did become disenchanted with Wall Street, then sobered up, and is trying to be Paul Revere about our political and economic woes.

We have heard most of his arguments before, but he approaches it as a conservative who is trying to save "real" capitalism from the forces of corruption.

Some points that I found especially interesting:

-Neither Obama or the GOP dare to challenge the military industrial complex, even with all the discussion about debt worries. Maybe the sequester was the best thing for us on the military end (but not on the public services and investments side). So many Americans are now dependent and suckling on the teat of defense (quite a mental image!), defense is "too big to fail" and they claim that any cuts will cause us to slide back into recession. And many politicians are OK with that because their re-elections hinge on defense jobs and contracts in their states. And we get basically zero ROI on most defense spending - they are just cash outlays that go poof. I guess the same can be said about food stamps, but that program is a grain of sand compared to defense. I am all for spending on infrastructure and *smart* research that will actually give us positive ROI.

-The Fed's monetary policies from Greenspan to today have been disastrous. The super-low interest rates did not ease borrowing or promote growth, but only allowed Wall Street to lever up and make more profits during bubble cycles. And for the retirees and others who "did it right" and saved responsibly all their lives - their fixed income reserves are producing nearly zero returns to live off of now.

-Stockman thinks that the Social Security Trust Fund is raided and just a confetti IOU. I have heard various assessments, so I am not sure what to believe - Is Social Security OK? One thing is clear - wealthy retirees should not be getting SS benefits, even if they paid a lot into the system for decades. It makes no sense to burden younger, productive, debt-laden working people with large payroll taxes to subsidize older, richer, secure folks who don't need more security. But you have the AARP out there, so that's that.


Clearly our financial and monetary woes are not a Democrat or Republican problem. They are an American problem (to borrow an Obam-ism). Both parties are now in love with irrational tax cuts and loopholes as the best way to bribe voters (especially rich voters). Both parties think that we need to spend as much on defense as the Pentagon asks for (like asking your kid the open ended question "What do you want for Xmas?" and being surprised when they say "Unicorn!!"), even though our military is built to fight threats that do no exist. Also, a moral hazard associated with a bloated military is the fact that we may feel more inclined to use it because we paid for it. If we had a scaled-down military on par with Scandinavia and such, then it would have been obvious that we couldn't occupy Afghanistan or Iraq. In that case, we would have devised more feasible, economical solutions to fight terrorism. And probably they would have been just as effective if not more so.

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I think Stockman is basically wrong. If you're concerned about the long-term health of the nation, what you need to be worried about is getting us out of this recession and repairing the damage done. There was a recent paper looking at the job health of the long-term unemployed, and the basic answer is that being out of work for 6+ months doesn't just mean you lose that time. It impacts you essentially for the rest of your career. There's an understandable stigma about hiring people who've been out of work for long periods, which makes it harder to get back into the workforce, when you come back it's at a lower role, etc. This is a big deal for recent college grads as well: young people who graduated in the last 3-5 years have been screwed, big-time, by our economy, and may never get back on track. This idea that reducing the deficit is "for the benefit of young people" is shenanigans.

On Social Security …

Legally, the Social Security Trust Fund is a separate organization from the federal government. It has its own dedicated revenue (payroll tax) and expenses. For a long time it ran a surplus, bringing in more revenue than it paid out. It invested that surplus prudently, in the world's safest and most liquid asset class: US Treasury Bonds. Anyone who calls a US Treasury Bond an IOU, like we're talking about a 10-year old's lemonade stand borrowing money for sugar, is deeply misinformed or trying to scam you. These are the highest-quality assets in the world.

Now, it's possible that the US government could choose to default on those bonds, causing Social Security to lose its trust fund. But a default on US Treasuries would be catastrophic. The debt ceiling threat was over a short-term, technical default, with every understanding that the debt would eventually be paid, and even that roiled financial markets. A decision to default on the US debt would, with very little hyperbole, end the world financial system. Every bank, hedge fund, money market fund, etc, would be insolvent.

Moreover, the folks who talk about Treasuries as IOUs describe this as being specific to Social Security, so now you're talking about a selective default on just the debt held by the Social Security Trust Fund. That is, the government (I think it's under Sec-Treasury, so executive branch) would have to decide to default only on debt to US seniors, while continuing to pay the Treasuries owned by China, by investment banks, etc. Can you imagine the political fallout, from deciding to stiff just seniors? That President's political party would likely become a swear word (if seniors swore).

Social Security has money to pay all projected benefits through 2037, at which point the oldest of the boomers would be 92. Beyond that, it's projected to be able to pay 80% of projected benefits through the end of the CBO's 75 year scoring window (nevermind that a 75 year economic projection is usually shenanigans - imagine someone in 1938 projecting US revenue in 2013). By law it cannot impact the US debt when it runs out of money. Now, Congress could decide to make up the shortfall out of general spending, but that's a choice they'd have to make (and political coalition they'd have to build).

Social Security is fine. If you want to talk about long-term US government debt problems, it's basically a story of rising healthcare costs.

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Yeah I find that narrative more believable and realistic than what the typical conservatives are claiming. As you said, there is no political or legal way that the US gov't could default just on Treasuries held by SS and keep its commitments to the other holders. That is good to know that SS is independent of the debt.

But I think Stockman's other point was regarding working people and the payroll tax that funds SS. It is the largest single tax item the typical young-to-mid career American has to pay, and does reduce purchasing power and ability to save/invest. Personally, I don't think that anyone with a household net worth of like >$500K (excluding primary residence and trusts) at age 65 should get any SS benefits unless they encounter severe financial distress later. They paid into the system, but now others need it more and they will probably be fine. Call it patriotic sacrifice. That way the "truly poor" seniors can get increased benefits (SS has fallen behind on COLA adjustments, and most seniors can't live "securely" on $1,100/month minus garnishing for Medicare premiums). The wealthy seniors will be OK, the poorer seniors will be more secure (lowering the burden of care on their progeny too), and the working people will have lower payroll taxes - which should stimulate growth. 

Also agreed that pretty much the entire conservative agenda isn't designed to help future generations and often screws them, so I doubt their debt ideas are so forward thinking. 

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The problem with means testing is that it doesn't really save much money, unless you set the threshold very low. SS benefits cap out pretty quick, so cutting off benefits for the top 1% only saves you 1-1.5% of the benefits.

The "is it Boomers" question is actually pretty interesting. It's always fun asking people why we're just talking about SS running out of money now, when the Baby Boom would have been obvious to anyone in a maternity ward starting about 1946 (the standard answer is "government can't get anything done"). But actually back in the 80s we solved the SS-demographic problem. Reagan convened a blue-ribbon council with a big complicated name, which most people knew as the Greenspan Commission after its head (before his Fed days). They were supposed to figure out how to make SS handle the baby boom demographic shift, they recommended a payroll tax increase, their recommendations were accepted, and the problem was solved. Say what you will about Greenspan, but the dude can do math.

So why do we have this problem? The liberal answer is that it has to do with income inequality. Through the 1970s, GDP growth was broadly shared; post-80s most of the growth happened at the top of the income spectrum. This impacts SS because it means that in Greenspan's projections, GDP growth would occur for people below the SS payroll tax cap, and get taxed. In fact, the additional income happened above the cap, so it didn't get taxed. I don't know what the conservative explanation is.

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Pardon my means testing ignorance. LOL the conservative explanation is "blame the liberals and takers". In a sense they are right, but they have the wrong takers. 

“When [Social Security] was developed, 50 percent of seniors lived in poverty. Today, poverty among seniors is too high, but that number is ten percent. Social Security has done exactly what it was designed to do!” - Bernie Sanders

If it's the case that only 10% of seniors are poor these days, then means testing should save a lot more, right?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/25/304387/bernie-sanders-introduces-bill-to-lift-the-payroll-tax-cap-ensuring-full-social-security-funding-for-nearly-75-years/?mobile=nc

As you said, raise or do away with the cap to get the system more in line with Greenspan's projections. In 2012, 4.2% of a worker's first $110K of wages went to FICA taxes. Let's say the avg. salary of the top 5% of workers is $250K (that may not be very accurate, but the 95th percentile of wages was $100K in 2006) and the US labor force is 150M. At a 4.2% payroll tax rate and a $110K cap, we are missing out on $44.1B per year. Total SS+Medicare revenue to the gov't was $800B in 2011. Subtracting Medicare and employer contributions, the employee portion of SS revenue is about $268B (SS is about 2/3 of the $800B, and employer-employee split is about 50/50). So lifting the wage cap would make SS employee revenue increase 16%.

The tax is very unprogressive. I would rather have employers and employees contribute only 1 or 2% of their first $40K of wages towards SS, and then the % grows above that like income taxes. 4% for $40-100K, 10% from $100-200K, 20% above that. Not that harsh IMO, but of course it is not going to happen. A worker pays AT MOST $7K to SS in a year. That is ludicrous for people making $200K+. The wage cap has gone up about 3-5% yearly (it was static during the recession), yet income for the top 1% have growth a lot more than 3-5% per annum. It doesn't make sense to economically burden the most productive members of society to subsidize the elderly who often have higher net worth. If you let the younger generations prosper, they won't need to depend on SS as much in the future. But as J said, the much bigger problem is Medicare. I also would advocate a progressive Medicare tax and much reduced benefits for seniors in higher wealth brackets (Obama is proposing this I think, but I'm sure it's meager).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Wage_Base
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/michael-shedlock/top-one-percent-received-income-gains-during-recovery
http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/federal-revenue-sources (never thought I'd reference these guys!)
http://www.ehow.com/how_4736068_calculate-payroll-taxes.html

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