Showing posts with label guardian. Show all posts
Showing posts with label guardian. Show all posts

Monday, June 10, 2013

Snowden's interview with the Guardian on PRISM

Here is the transcript of the leaker (Snowden) interview with Greenwald: http://www.policymic.com/articles/47355/edward-snowden-interview-transcript-full-text-read-the-guardian-s-entire-interview-with-the-man-who-leaked-prism/612597

This quote from Snowden was most salient to me:

"Because even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded. And the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude to where it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with. And attack you on that basis to sort to derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer."

In this context, it's very much a civil rights issue. Contrary to the gov't claims, Snowden says that the NSA-CIA is definitely snooping on domestic traffic and US citizens, not just foreigners suspected of terrorism by court order. But what if in the future the gov't focuses on other/more crimes? Contrary to our 1st Amend. right to free association, what if by accident you are at the wrong place at the wrong time or mistaken for a suspect (i.e. Ted Kennedy on the no-fly list)? Then the gov't has access to all your past telco and online history, and through the lens of presumed suspicion, may be able to use that data out of context to build a narrative that paints you in a very negative light. Because as we all know, if we cherry-pick various online actions from anyone, we can make a case that person X holds extreme beliefs, is mentally unstable, and could be a danger to the nation (think McCarthy meets Big Data). And the drone program makes it even more disturbing. Supposedly no US citizen can be secretly sentenced to death on US soil. But what if we travel overseas, and we are mis-identified as a terror plotter? Whoops, our bad! What impartial party is checking the data and findings before the final call? The investigator/prosecutor can't be an unbiased auditor too. And of course the suspect doesn't get to present his/her side of the case until it's too late. Heck even with our developed legal system, we erroneously incriminate, incarcerate, or even kill innocent Americans each year. So I have real concerns about judging people in secret using only "hearsay" online data.

We know gov'ts have agendas and may unfairly target certain people/groups (i.e. IRS scandal that we discussed). Therefore how can we trust them to manage these secret, sensitive, expansive data tools responsibly and ethically, with no one to play Devil's Advocate and defend those under suspicion (even people that "seem guilty")? I work in data analysis, and mistakes/wrong conclusions happen ALL THE TIME among pretty smart people. Humans want to confirm their own beliefs, and will massage/filter data and their own reasoning to get there. Like the problems in scientific research, to be truly rigorous you should use data to find all the ways your theory could be wrong, not the other way around. Databases are not perfect either, even Google's. What if a digit is switched here and there (i.e. Rogoff's "coding errors"), showing that you regularly call Pakistan instead of Paris? You can't perform QC on every data point of material, and a program of PRISM's scale is probably producing terabytes of data every day.

Frankly all these concerns can also be applied to the tech-telco companies that are the custodians of our data, and we have no choice but trust them (that is another debate for another day). Though at least with those firms, we do have channels for legal redress if they wrong us (even though it's very hard to subpoena evidence and beat their crack legal teams). Companies have messed up, apologized, and changed their practices (Google pulling out of Mainland China, Facebook terms of use, etc.). With orgs like the NSA and CIA, there is no oversight and redress, despite claims of "Congressional monitoring." The spooks show Congress only what they want them to see.

Friday, June 7, 2013

Guarding and Post break story of the NSA's PRISM domestic spying

We know that some quasi-legal, mostly-secret spying programs were launched post-9/11 by the Bushies, and were continued/reauthorized by Obama. The Senate Intel. Cmte. has sent a letter to AG Holder expressing concern for the magnitude of domestic surveillance that our intel. infrastructure wants legal authority to conduct. They think that there is a major gulf between what Americans think the gov't is entitled to do, and what the gov't actually interprets their authority to allow.

The FISA (Foreign Intel. Surveil. Act) was recently reauthorized and grants the gov't the power to monitor int'l and non-American comm. But recently the Guardian and WP broke the story that the NSA has had a program called PRISM since 2007 that would basically grant them direct access to the data on the servers of major internet comm. companies like Microsoft, Skype, Google, Yahoo, and most recently Apple - for the purpose of domestic spying that FISA doesn't allow (they were tired of FISA's legal red tape too). And the program was conducted with basically zero oversight. This is all described in a PowerPoint training deck that was leaked (BTW the NSA makes really crappy slides). So far the NSA has not denied the legitimacy of that source.

The Director of Nat. Intel., James Clapper, has also not denied the existence of PRISM (and its $200M/year budget). In line with the Obama admin's "war on whistle-blowers", he lashed out that leaking the story would harm national security. Right, like how Jane Fonda helped the Viet Cong. By Clapper's own words, secret surveillance has foiled one (= 1, uno) domestic terror plot on record since the program started (target unknown, potential losses averted unknown). Democrats on the Senate Intel. Cmte. say they have no evidence that surveil. stopped any plots. So the benefit of the program is 0-1 plots stopped over 12 years. I don't think exposing the program is going to matter at all, except maybe compromise their surveil. budgets and autonomy. Also, what terrorist worth his weight in salt doesn't already know to "stay off their airwaves"?

Interestingly, the tech companies issued statements saying that they have no knowledge of PRISM, and do not give the gov't a backdoor to their servers. So either they are lying and actively colluded with the gov't, or the gov't broke a ton of laws and hacked into those companies totally discreetly (eat your heart out, China). I have no data to back this up, but my suspicion is the cyber security folks at those prestigious companies are a lot better than the hackers at the NSA. So the likelihood that Google would get caught with their pants down is low. But maybe those were the terms of the agreement: they would let the gov't snoop, but in return they get full denial and release of liability, so their users don't revolt and sue.

Another revelation is that the gov't got access to the "metadata" on Verizon's telco network. So they weren't actually eavesdropping without a warrant on calls, but instead knew which #s were talking to each other, when the calls were made, and what was the closest cell tower. Tracking and call patterns in other words. While that was probably clever by "Zero Dark Thirty" standards, I am not sure if it is legal to do it indiscriminately without probable cause.

This leak comes at a horrible time for Obama, who is about to sit down with Chinese leaders to chastise them for hacking US companies (we previously blogged about this). It kind of undermines his credibility and moral high ground when our gov't is caught hacking its own people and companies too.

What I don't understand is why Greenwald was permitted to publish these articles. I saw "Bourne"... isn't he supposed to get whacked in a London train station?

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He was on DN this morning.  Amy Goodman asked him, 'Are you concerned that you will be attacked for publishing such things?'  His response was basically, 'I'm emboldened by the attacks.  Let them attack me.'  Basically, he can't be silenced.  What are they going to do?  Out him?  Um, too late.  If i was boarding a plane and saw GG and Jeremy Scahill boarding, I would take a different plane....those two will very soon NOT be seen on MSM, is my guess.  GG will never be on Bill Maher after his calling Maher out for being an Islamophobe(and, he is).   These two are the heroes of our time.  Oh, add Bradley Manning and you got the makings of a superhero cartoon!

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Yeah the Manning case is interesting. He has already pleaded guilty to some major crimes, but the gov't wants to convict him for "aiding the enemy" (presumably his leaks helped Al Qaeda? Impossible to prove unless we have a smoking gun - which we don't). And they won't even accept all his prison time up to this point as time served, to reduce his remaining sentence (not to mention the torture).

But I think what makes him ineligible for hero status is his indiscriminate data dump to Wikileaks. At least with the Pentagon Papers, Ellsberg "edited" them and only leaked snippets of the docs that would tell the story with minimal exposure of gov't sources/processes (apart from the guilty parties). In Manning's case, he didn't even know all the stuff he was leaking, and just trusted Wikileaks to decide what was fit to print. I am glad that he exposed some horrible war crimes from Iraq that the gov't was trying to bury. But I think he also set back our peaceful State Dept. diplomatic efforts in other parts of the world. Clearly people like Rummy and Cheney have hurt this nation a lot worse than Manning ever could.

http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201306030900




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I don't know if it helps the moral high ground but the verizon thing was signed by a judge.
I just have a hard time understanding who, anywhere in the us, thinks this should be an ok thing to do.  Who thinks it makes sense to have a secret court issue secret orders unreviewable and unchallengeable by those it affects?  And it always begs the question what are they doing we DON'T know about?

Extra embarrassing with a nominally dem president in charge.


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Yeah, though a judge also approved Bush's harsh interrogation and rendition policies too. Heck a judge ruled that Bush won the election. :)

As you said, lord knows WTF is going on that we don't know about. Makes those conspiracy guys a little more credible at times. It was embarrassing to see Obama in Si Valley today defending the programs like a stooge. Same argument with the drone kills: TRUST us that we are making these decisions carefully (in secret) and we are protecting you from the bad men. Either Obama doesn't truly believe that and is just delivering lines that will please the defense establishment (which makes him a coward, appeaser, and poor leader), or he really believes it (which makes him dumber and less moral that I previously gave him credit for). Nixon would have loved the 21st Century.

M sent me this which was thought-provoking: http://m.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-asking/306288/?mrefid=twitter

Thanks, I haven't seen this before. I think the author has a point. 9/11 was a freaking OUTLIER. Yes the stakes are higher now with WMDs and the borderless global world, but even an event as horrific as 9/11 was not a society-ender (we'll it was... for Iraq). "Sacrifices for freedom" are often much smaller than that, and would be even smaller if our brash and unjust foreign and economic policies didn't piss off so many. Even today, Obama said "We can't have 100% security and 100% freedom." It is a false choice as many have said (http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201306070900). But we're NEVER going to have 100% security, even if we have 0% freedom. Random violence and tragic accidents are part of the human condition, even in the Utopia of Scandinavia (Brevik shooting, car accidents with reindeer, suicides inspired by 6 months of darkness). Americans are hysterical and selfish, and they don't want to fear that one day they may be the victim of a crazy bomber. So they endorse all these stupid policies to just "feel safer". The soccer mom philosophy of "I'll do anything to protect my kids", even if that means ironically supporting policies that put many other no-less-worthy people's kids in danger. And we wonder why they hate us.

Strangely this line of thinking doesn't apply to the gun debate, where the opposite psychology reigns: freedom is the precious thing worth dying for (or letting children die for), where thousands more brown-skinned youth have to be sacrificed each year just so said soccer mom's husband can dream about stopping a home invasion (perpetrated by Mookie Hernandez) with his Bushmaster. And in the gun debate, there can be no gray area; limitless magazines and no paper trails of gun purchases. Any encroachment on that is fascist tyranny. It's not like the constant pushing-of-the-envelope with the privacy-security debate as the tech evolves (that has gone on since the times of J. Edgar), where it's "OK" to secretly gather metadata, but not actual telephony content. And we promise to not cross that line. It's OK to kill Americans without trial, as long as they're overseas and saying hateful things. But we won't go past that, trust us.

Should we find new ways to use technology in uncontroversial ways to make our society safer (not just from terrorism, but from car accidents, sickness, etc.)? Certainly. Should we have a debate on when other priorities need to trump privacy? Sure. So let's talk it out in public rather than let a few scheming powerful men make all the decisions in secret, because we're too scared to live up to our civic duty.



Friday, June 17, 2011

Obama's transparency award and Libya lawsuit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jun/14/rescind-barack-obama-obama-transparency-award

The "transparency award" in question was described as "aspirational", similar to the rationale for awarding Obama the Nobel Peace Prize early in his presidency when he had done nothing yet to further the cause of peace. Participants admitted they used the private meeting in March to try and lobby Obama to do more to earn their award. If the president doesn't change course as a result of the lobbying and "award", there are some who would shrug and say, "no harm, no foul".
- letter authors

In March, Obama won an open government/transparency award from 5 gov't watchdog groups. But soon after, a coalition of other watchdogs and whistleblowers wrote an open letter in The Guardian to rescind the award, since secrecy and suppression have actually increased during the Obama admin. This is noteworthy when you consider his predecessor. I know he is no longer Candidate Obama, and as president he must be a company man and defend agencies like the NSA and FBI. But we put him in office to change things, not bolster the status quo.

The "example" his administration is making of Wikileaker Bradley Manning (who hasn't been convicted in court BTW) is atrocious. That man (a US citizen with rights) probably broke the law, but at present he is basically zero threat to US national security, yet he has been kept in solitary lock-down 23/24 hours a day for months. There are also accusations that he was tortured. This punishment is disproportionate and probably unconstitutional. How can we criticize Syria and Myanmar about their abuses? Yes leaks can hurt national interests, but secrets can too. There has to be a balance, and without leakers and whistleblowers, we might still think that Nixon wasn't a crook, companies price commodities fairly, and cigarettes are non-addictive. 

Here is a partial list of their criticisms:
• President Obama has not decreased, but has dramatically increased governmental secrecy. According to a new report to the president by the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) – the federal agency that provides oversight of the government's security classification system – the cost of classification for 2010 has reached over $10.17bn. That's a 15% jump from the previous year, and the first time ever that secrecy costs have surpassed $10bn.
• There were 544,360 requests for information last year under the Freedom of Information Act to the 35 biggest federal agencies – 41,000 requests more than the year before. Yet the bureaucracy responded to 12,400 fewer requests than the prior year, according to an analysis by the Associated Press.
• Obama has invoked baseless and unconstitutional executive secrecy to quash legal inquiries into secret illegalities more often than any predecessor. The list of this president's invocations of the "state secrets privilege" has already resulted in shutting down lawsuits involving the National Security Agency's illegal wiretapping – Jewel v NSA and Shubert v Obama; extraordinary rendition and assassination – Anwar al-Awlaki; and illegal torture – Binyam Mohamed.
• Ignoring his campaign promise to protect government whistleblowers, Obama's presidency has amassed the worst record in US history for persecuting, prosecuting and jailing government whistleblowers and truth-tellers. President Obama's behaviour has been in stark contrast to his campaign promises, which included live-streaming meetings online and rewarding whistleblowers.
• The Obama justice department's prosecution of former NSA official Thomas Drake, who, up till 9 June, faced 35 years in prison for having blown the whistle on the NSA's costly and unlawful warrantless monitoring of American citizens, typifies the abusive practices made possible through expansive secrecy agreements and threats of prosecution.
• President Obama has set a powerful and chilling example for potential whistleblowers through the abuse and torture of Bradley Manning, whose guilt he has also publicly stated prior to any trial by his, Obama's, military subordinates.
• Under President Obama, the FBI has launched a series of raids and issued grand jury subpoenas targeting nearly two dozen antiwar activists. Over 2,600 arrests of protesters in the US have been made while Obama has been president, further encroaching on the exercise of first amendment rights.
• President Obama has initiated a secret assassination programme, has publicly announced that he has given himself the power to include Americans on the list of people to be assassinated, and has attempted to assassinate at least one, Anwar al-Awlaki.
• President Obama has maintained the power to secretly kidnap, imprison, rendition, or torture, and he has formalised the power to lawlessly imprison in an executive order. This also means the power to secretly imprison. There are some 1,700 prisoners outside the rule of law in Bagram alone.
• President Obama promised to reveal White House visitors' logs. He didn't. In response to outrage over his refusal to reveal the names of health insurance CEOs he had met with and cut deals with on the health insurance reform bill, he announced that he would release the names going forward, but not those in the past. And going forward, he would withhold names he chose to withhold. White House staff then began regularly meeting lobbyists just off White House grounds in order to avoid the visitors' logs.
• President Obama has sent representatives to aggressively pressure Spain, England and Germany to shut down investigations that could have exposed the crimes of the Bush era, just as he has instructed the US justice department to avoid such matters.
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Also, what do you think about the lawsuit brought on by Kucinich, Boehner, and others questioning the legality of Obama's military action in Libya vis-a-vis the War Powers Act? I know I wrote you earlier advocating intervention in Libya, but since then I believe I was wrong. Well, I definitely think the way Obama and NATO are handling it is wrong. If we made a surgical hit on Qaddafi and his most loyal associates when the rebels were on the outskirts of Tripoli early in the conflict, maybe it could have avoided these months of war and stalemate (there probably would still be later conflict in Libya to fill the power vacuum, but at least the UN could get shoes on the ground by then to try to maintain order and political fair play).

But as we learned in Iraq, we just can't take out a dictator without a PLAN for what happens next. And of course we have no friggin' plan for Libya. The excuse of avoiding a humanitarian disaster with intervention also doesn't hold water, because worse abuses took place in Darfur, and are taking place presently in Syria, and we do nothing. Qaddafi is bad but he's not Nero. Plus who the heck will run the country after him? We don't have a puppet government waiting in the wings, and we have no history or relations with the rebels (who are quite heterogeneous BTW). From our dealings with Pakistan and Israel, we should know that even open alliances can be very tricky and damaging to our interests. So maybe the Libertarians and pacifists (and those with common sense intelligence) are onto something when they advocate for no foreign interventions unless our vital interests are directly at stake. The sooner the US realizes the limits of its power and influence, the stronger and safer the country will be.

Despite the Congressional lawsuit, they can't really do anything to stop the Libya operation because Obama said he won't be asking them for any more money than was already allocated, so they have no future leverage. They of course could draft legislation to force the president to halt the mission, but Obama would just veto it, and I doubt Dem senators would turn against him with an election year coming up.

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So can we give the Laker's the NBA championship halfway through next season?  Ya know, to encourage them to actually win it.

Reading that list of offenses by Obama is embarassing.  But a non-theoretical question for you, would you expect Bachmann to be better?  In retrospect would we have preferred McCain/Palin?  As hard and fast as the government is screwing us there is no hero to step in.  What are the options?  Mass support for protests just does exist in this country partly for reasons recently discussed.  A meaningful number of people think Obama is too liberal and that Romney is too.  

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Haha the Lakers don't need that incentive, they just need to have their wives and GFs get along, but that's another story! Heck they have enough talent anyway, give the pre-championship to the Clippers to motivate them!

As you said, the aspirational award is an interesting concept. Too bad it doesn't apply to peons like me. I'd love for my boss to give me an aspirational bonus/promotion, and if I didn't live up to it, "no harm no foul".

Of course I think some more hard-line politicians would be much worse than Obama re: transparency, but that's why I voted for him. He was supposed to be more civil, dignified, and humane, but his record hasn't shown much. While I think it's highly unlikely Obama would lose in 2012 (and if he does, we'll have many more problems than this undeserved transparency award), a new GOP administration is not likely to be more people-friendly on this issue. I would pack my bags if I was a Muslim or Arab, considering the offensive language used at the recent debate and on the campaign trail. Didn't some politician say we should nuke Mecca in retaliation for another Islamist attack on the US?

Yep: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162795,00.html 
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and, a meaningful number survive on social security, lost their homes to fraudulent banking practices and have had healthcare costs skyrocket to the point of being unattainable.  i think they're waking up to the fact that the democrats and republicans are going to screw them, no matter what.  it;s coke or pepsi.  pepsi's a little sweeter, but both will make your ass fat and rot your teeth.  it's bullshit and it's bad for you.  look how many people are showing up and protesting and getting arrested.  there are tons.  it's just not on your tv nor is it reported on npr.   People have to stop this branding thing of 'socialism is bad' and start to wake up that social-ism just means that your priority in govt. is society, therefore you support society's basic needs.  then, you have to vote for people based on their actions, not on their words(obama).  but, i'm not totally convinced that even if we did vote in kucinich for president he wouldn't be crippled by media attacks like carter.  revolution is the only way out.  it's breaking out all over.  

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The unfortunate part is you need to be at the light-myself-on-fire stage for meaningful action to take place.  People are willing to take too much and survive on too little.  What i don't understand is how badly things can go once you get into the high office.  Would T do the same thing as Obama?  Maybe i'm not cynical enough to believe that most in congress/high offices went into it for the wrong reason.  I want to believe that most went to change things for the better but our current outcome doesn't follow.
Maybe the random selection method for government offices?  2 year rotation only requirement is minimum education?
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Heh T holding high office? I would send the Lakers and Patriots to Gitmo, legalize all drugs but meth (only ugly trailer trash use it), move the US capital to Vegas, and institute a national salary cap of $1M (since I'm not greedy). Then I'd use that extra tax revenue to fix all the broken shit we email about. But it wouldn't really matter what I want since it would be impossible to work with Congress on anything meaningful.

Actually the Tunisians (part of the smelly Arab masses that Westerners look down on) have a leg up on us. That street vendor who got screwed over by the gov't and self-immolated triggered a successful revolution. The American Quaker who lit himself on fire to protest Vietnam didn't stop the war, much less overthrow Nixon. And you or I doing the same today won't make Washington wake up. Our lives don't mean squat to them. A million lives don't either. And when that is the case - we need new gov't as L said.

J and I were talking about this recently - No Drama Obama decided that getting re-elected was more important than keeping his campaign promises. He basically is letting Wall Street (and those loyal to it in Congress) have free reign, deferring to the Pentagon and CIA to "protect America" as they see fit, and not confronting the many parties damaging America from within (and I'm not referring to the Muslims or Hollywood Elite). That way none of his campaign donors are pissed off, and maybe in his second term he grows a pair. Or maybe that's the problem - he was all "hopey and changey" on the campaign trail, but in private he made promises to all his funders that he would be this kind of president, and "a Lannister always pays his debts".

Maybe you noticed that I'm fairly schizophrenic on my evaluations of Obama since 2008, depending on how bad the GOP is in comparison. Today obviously I'm being a hard-ass. But it's tough - expectations were unprecedented for him, world events have got in the way of a lot of his initiatives, the US right wing has basically made it their Crusade for him to fail, and "herding cats" in Washington is as tricky as it sounds (even the liberal ones, who all expect Obama to put their causes #1). And let's remember that he was pretty much a political baby upon taking office. Bottom line, these are just excuses. He deliberately let opportunities for change pass him by, or he didn't try hard enough to stand up for the people and for what is right. Sadly, his boldest move was to give the green light to violate Pakistani sovereignty and take out Geronimo. I don't think other major political figures would have done much better in his shoes, but I have to believe there are some caring, decent Americans out there who could. Those people wouldn't be allowed anywhere near elected office though.

But like M said, somehow America will go on because deep down we can take a lot of shit. We may complain about it, but we'll soldier on, even if we're broke. What choice do we have - move to Afghanistan? And things aren't quite Greek-bad in order to get a critical mass to rise up. We'll have Coke or Pepsi in Washington for probably the rest of our lives, and that's just the way it is. But hopefully if a real leader for the people emerges, I'm ready to follow him/her and give my life to rid us of this plutocracy. I just hope what follows is something better.
Oh forgot to mention (humor me just a sec), another thing barring us from rising up is losing whatever little we have. Unless you're Buddhist, you probably feel that you have one shot at life. Loved ones, job, what meager assets you have - if you decide to fight the system you could lose it all. It's a serious deterrent, as is the hope that things are bound to get better if we just wait it out. Inaction is the easiest action. That's why I really have to admire the freedom fighters and activists from Iran to Burma, who have made the choice to lay it all on the line for what they believe, and many have paid dearly. We are cowards and slaves in comparison.  

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There is something to be said to giving 100% (like many of these protesters who are literally dying to make their country better) but it is also important to note the absolute value of what you have to lose.  Most people have a job that pays, a tv to watch, food to eat, etc.  If i was deciding between protest and starvation what do i really have to lose.  Like you said T, people don't want to lose what little we have.  And i'm not sure we'll ever have little enough (by comparison to the rest of the world) for a large enough percentage of people to be willing to risk it for change.  Unfortunately i'm like most people in that i'm an armchair critic.  Maybe that is actually more that what most people put into the political process but it isn't enough and I know that and i don't have the time/will/determination/fill in the blank to change that as of now. 

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Yeah I feel you on these points. As you said, much of our population won't be so desperate as to revolt, and those at the bottom are too marginalized to fight. Just as civil rights have evolved since the Middle Ages, so has tyranny. The feudal and slavery systems mostly failed around the world (except places like Saudi and N Korea), so rulers have found that they can still keep people down in a "free society". It's very good crowd control (whether deliberate or not): pacify the people with just enough prosperity and other priorities so they forget about their rights and dignity. Order in China pretty much hinges on this too.

It's tough to convince people to fight a system that they are invested in, or feel dependent on. Most of us probably have retirement accounts. Those are run by Wall Street. Probably we would like to see the "too big to fail" banks broken up like Standard Oil, but what if the cost was our savings? More Americans work for corporations now than ever before (probably out of necessity and economic conditions, not that we like them any more). At work I am sure you have met zealots who think the firm can do no wrong, and they might secretly be OK with corporate misbehavior if their stock options appreciate. Even if we're not greedy company men, our reliance on their salary and hope for career progression may affect our loyalties. We like our creature comforts and we can't all be like Siddhartha or Guevarra. Online media supposedly helped some Mideast revolutions, but when used differently it can be an urban pacification tool. People can literally never face another human being, yet hold a job and order whatever items they need online. If we're all isolated (and distracted with media/entertainment), we can't organize. And to a certain extent, major religions tell us to just take our lumps and don't rock the boat, and we'll be rewarded in the afterlife. These and other factors make us unlikely to upset the status quo.

Maybe we don't have to be all or nothing though - courage to change what we can, tolerance to accept what we can't, and wisdom to know the difference. A big gift to the world is to raise kids with good values who might be able to serve society more than we were able. Heh but when faced with that challenge, maybe I'd rather be a guerrilla. A MLK or Gandhi is born every so often, so we have trust and nurture the next generation (which hopefully also prevents the next Hitler or Pol Pot from developing). But "waiting on the world to change" probably isn't good enough, so I guess incremental protests or choices made in your own life about issues you care about can achieve some good (and hopefully won't have unintended negative consequences). Maybe with the butterfly effect and such, a passing good deed snowballs into something bigger. I could do a lot better, but I try to donate/volunteer, avoid frivolous consumption, do right by people, and scale back my energy/meat intake. Unfortunately, I think all that doesn't even offset all the harm I do each day. If I had any surplus money, I wouldn't invest in companies that I don't approve of (which is pretty much all of them LOL). I'm open to new suggestions though, so M or others please feel free to share. But as you said, changing ourselves is the easy part - how the hell do we change politics?
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Now, I'm with you!  a lottery system for people who had an adequate grade in mandatory civics classes in high school.  that would first entail we teach civics in high school again.
My guess is T wouldn't change but would think that he was being pragmatic by privatizing prisons.  It's rationalization.  Either that, or someone in the media would get a 'tip' on T's porn collection and ending his career with a tearful remorseful press conference. ;)
To be honest, I'm not sure we as a society would care if someone set themselves on fire in protest. We'd call them crazy.
I heard it described once as a frog in a cool pot of water on a stove.  The frog just sits while being cooked in the boiling water b/c it happens so slowly.
People are protesting(i'm going to an antiwar rally today), people are getting arrested, marches are happening on wall street regularly.  But, it doesn't exist in our worlds which glow from living rooms every night, therefore they don't happen.  Hugo Chavez has a downright antagonistic media.  It's run by the monied elite.  But, he also has 70% support b/c he really is a populist and supports evening the playing field.  Can that happen here?  I just don't know.....Does poverty have to reach the level of poverty of third world nations before we do something?  

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Heh I'm already having Weiner (the mother of all fitting names) draft
my apology speech. "I let you all down, and I ask that you pray for my
rehabilitation, and healing for my family who suffered from my
misdeeds."

Besides improving civics edu (that US kids scored horribly in a recent
assessment), families/teachers/leaders need to do a much better job
showing youth how we are all interconnected and interdependent. The
selfish older gens are a lost cause, but maybe there's hope for kids.
If we realize the consequences and externalities of our actions, then
maybe we'll make more socially responsible decisions. Do I really need
that luxury car, knowing that money could feed a village for a year?
The world is not just our playground and our personal desires aren't
the only consideration. Once people get a grip on their egotism and
tribalism, socialism is the logical next step. It's not an us-vs-them,
win-lose situation; we're all in this together so we better cooperate,
or we won't survive. I'm struggling with this every day though.