Showing posts with label cia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cia. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 2, 2016

TLDR campaign discussion 2

I'm referring to the ability of the electorate to alter the policies and behavior of the state through elections. If the system doesn't allow for that, I think it's failing the first and most essential test of popular government.

Our current system seems to be doing worse and worse on this criterion (partly due to Constitutional constraints such as checks and balances and the separation of powers, partly for other reasons), and I think it's creating a worsening democratic deficit in national government. This deficit makes the system more vulnerable to people like Trump by undermining the electorate's confidence in the ability of the political system to address political problems.

Fundamentally, the public needs to be to vote for something in one election; bring the people promising it into power; and then, next time around, if they're not happy with how things have gone, throw the government out and vote someone else into the chair sitting under the sword of Damocles. In our current system, we never get to hold any party responsible for failure because every part of the system is so interdependent with all the others. There's a smaller and smaller scope for actual policymaking, so, in lieu of democratic government, we're stuck with a permanent election campaign.

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Yeah the irony is that we are in 24-7 campaign mode, yet the incumbents win 95% of the time, and occasionally we get the macro cycles of "boot the bums out" every decade or so (or every recession/fiasco: Iraq led to the Dem majority, financial crisis led to Obama, and then Obama - racism/panic over what Obama represents IMO - led to the TP and GOP resurgence).

As you said, what is the point of elections and representative gov't if they don't reflect the wants of the voters? When candidates are generally limited to the insider/oligarch class (incl. Trump), obviously that doesn't represent most voters. But with Citizens United and other structural realities of our system, how can that change? If anything, it will continue to change for the worse as you said. Good times.

Another problem is that voters get so fed up with the corrupt, apathetic elites that they want reform/revolution, but then opportunists like Trump, Le Pen, Hugo Chavez, etc. ride the angry populist wave, even though they are in it for themselves & may even make things worse.
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As far as how to change it goes, I see it as a problem of institutions more than anything else. Our institutions don't provide clear signals to voters and this contributes to viciously perverse incentives for politicians.

To think of it as an analytical problem, election platforms are hypotheses and actions in office are experiments. Our problem is that our experiments are poorly controlled and rife with confounding factors, so we can never disprove any of our hypotheses. (Obviously, even under the best of circumstances, it's hard to identify intraterm success metrics for politicians, since many effects may lag their causes by years or even generations; but we're a very long way from this being our biggest problem.) The effect of this phenomenon is that we have a calcified set of hypotheses that become quasireligious totems ("lower taxes", "universal healthcare", "school choice", "gun control", etc.) and almost totally monopolize our political discourse, in large part because they can't be meaningfully tested.


To tip my hand a little bit, I'd point to the UK. Their system has a number of weaknesses, but it hasn't suffered much from this particular problem. Margaret Thatcher remains a deeply divisive figure in the UK, but no one is confused about what she did. Likewise Clement Attlee; you may love the NHS or you may hate it, but there's no question that Attlee's government is responsible for it. I want that kind of agency and clarity for American governments.


I'm personally not all that concerned by the fact that politicians disproportionately come from the upper classes. There's a long and (mostly) honorable tradition of aristrocrats who find a constituency outside the aristocracy, from Pericles to the Gracchi to Lafayette to Asquith to Kerensky to FDR to Stevenson to Trump. (Kerensky and Asquith weren't quite as aristocratic as the other names on the list, of course, but they both came from classes whose interests were not the main beneficiaries of their platforms.) As long as the people are the sole source of political power, anyone who wants to wield that power will have to cater to the interests of the electorate, even if it might go against the interests of the class into which they were born. History shows us that there are plenty of members of the upper classes who will cheerfully oblige.


That being said, I'm conceding in advance that my prediction "We won't be taking about Donald Trump after Super Tuesday" is not going to come true. I still wouldn't give him much better than even odds of winning the nomination right now, but, on my estimation, his odds have been much more improved than worsened in the last couple weeks, and the break in the party elites' refusal to support him seems a very significant move in his favor. Oh well.


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I like that insight that political platforms = hypotheses and administrations = expts. Too bad that the folks in power always attribute "successes" to their actions/vision and failures to the opposition party / external events / people who hate the country. Maybe some of it is true, but that prevents a lot of useful learning and avoidance of repeated mistakes (e.g. Vietnam to Iraq to the inevitable next quagmire).

Well, you must have seen the S. Tues results. I suppose Kasich is holding on to try to win OH, but probably that helps Trump because his supporters would likely not shift to Trump's camp if he bowed out. A Brokered Conv. would be quite something, and in this case I'd say it's justified. But it is a slippery slope as Peter suggested. 

At least it's not like the smoky secret boardrooms where Cheney and Co. planned out how we would carve up the Middle East among Exxon, Boeing, and Halliburton. In this case, it's "how the fuck do we prevent calamity and save what shreds are left of the GOP's rep?" Maybe this is an unfair analogy, but it's kind of like the Turkish/Egyptian/Pakistani military stepping in (as a venerable institution guarding the national interest) and unseating the Muslim Brotherhood or some other leader. Call it a coup, but I guess sometime in a coup you can actually replace a bad guy with a less bad guy. 

Lastly to change gears a bit, I am pretty tired of Michael Hayden's PR tour re: his recent book to whitewash all his spycraft from the last decade. 
  • The most misleading quote he had recently was that "if [Trump or the next president] wants to bring back waterboarding, they need to bring their own bucket." (slight paraphrase) Meaning that the CIA would refuse to participate. 
    • It's not because the CIA has somehow found morals and now respects int'l laws, but that they felt "betrayed" by the Obama admin. and Congressional Dems who investigated the activity and alleged that it was criminal. 
    • He said that the torturers acted in good faith and under the assumption that the (Bush) WH lawyers supported what they were trying to do, ostensibly to reduce threats and gather intel. 
      • So that makes it all good, because the intent was noble and their boss said it was OK? You have a sworn duty to not follow unlawful orders. 
    • He totally ignored the fact that our security apparatus has some real bad apples / sociopaths in it, and they welcome any opportunity to overstep bounds. 
      • But we should probably blame the politicians/voters for this. We were all freaked out after 9/11 and just gave the security svcs. carte-blanche: "just protect us and we don't care how you do it, we'll look the other way." We shouldn't be surprised that some abuses occurred.
  • Hayden said that Trump's proposal to go after terrorists' families "because they deserve it" is wrong; intel is about anticipating the future, not avenging the past. 
    • While that is partly true in principle, there is no way that the CIA/NSA isn't deep in the vengeance and punishment game (hasn't he heard of Richard Nixon?). 

At least he's siding with Apple vs. the FBI. Anyone who thinks it's safer for the gov't to have exclusive keys to a backdoor into our most intimate personal devices, and nothing could possible go wrong with that, well I have a bridge to sell you.

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I think it's humorous that if Trump wasn't running this year, we'd probably be mocking Rubio/Cruz/Carson as total joke candidates. But in comparison they are the safe/sane ones. Remember the "Teflon Don" John Gotti? Trump is the new "Teflon Donald" because as Eric said, no matter what terrible stuff he says/does, his support doesn't take a hit. Truly marketing & demagoguery at its worst. This is cold-water-to-the-face for US politics, but it should also be for US civics education. We might not have gotten to this point if secondary school (and parents/role models) did a better job to stress the seriousness & implications of civic engagement & vetting leaders.

Re: the CIA, yeah I think we can always find anecdotes where torture was "effective" or "ineffective." I suppose it also depends if they nabbed the right guy, as our thugs have rounded up & rendered to Gitmo (and Syria, when we actually paid Assad to torture folks for us) dozens of innocent/irrelevant people since 2001. The advocates of harsh security measures never consider this calculus:
  • Either totally don't engage in torture/violation of due process/etc. on moral/principled grounds (because legal grounds will always have gray areas and loopholes)
  • Or if you are considering it, think about: + benefit of the intel gained from true positives - cost of maintaining this global covert program - cost of type I/II errors - cost of true negatives (you tortured the wrong guy but didn't believe him until the end, thereby wasting resources/time) - blowback if/when your activities are made public
    • I just don't see how that formula could be positive

Wednesday, December 10, 2014

The Senate CIA torture report

Some of this was already known or suspected by us, but the confirmation and surprising excesses just make me ashamed to be American. It's a black mark on all the Americans who previously or currently fight for freedom and human rights honorably, or in some cases they do it smartly/peacefully so they don't need to fight at all.

Of course the CIA regurgitated the same tired lines that this disclosure will put US personnel and interests in danger overseas, and their tactics (albeit ugly) prevented attacks. Well on the first point, there is no such thing as secrecy in our social media connected world. Even if there was no Senate report, people all over the world have experienced or know of relatives and neighbors getting kidnapped, tortured, or assassinated. Do you think they don't care and just forget? They hate us for it and it breeds new security threats for the US. So don't blame the Senate for exposing what foreigners already know. The Senate is just forcing the apathetic, aloof public to look at ourselves in the mirror - which is a critical requirement of a functional free society that we may overlook.

Re: their second point, that the ends justify the means - well we know where that argument leads. Technically, it will probably make America safer if we nuke Pakistan tomorrow. Are we prepared to do that? Of course not. From a utilitarian perspective, you have to draw the line on how much evil you are willing to commit to do good, and I think our society wants to have a very low bar for that (as we should). If the outcome is good, you can rationalize and make all the excuses you want. But what if you're wrong and you failed? You committed all that evil for no gain, and we have to deal with the consequences of the evil too. The Senate report suggested that torture did generate some actionable intel, but they weren't critical pieces of intel, and in many cases that info was also obtained through more ethical means. So it was a lot of evil for very little benefits, and there were better ways to get the same benefits. Of course intel under duress is full of lies and false leads, which wasted intel resources. The CIA is a gov't agency too - so hawkish conservatives need to remember that it's not immune to similar screw-ups as we've seen at the VA, HHS, IRS, etc.

Like the recent NSA abuses, this is what happens when we as a society get so lazy/fearful/egocentric that we let our perceived security trump everything else, and entrust it to sociopaths with little to no scruples or accountability (and plenty of ulterior motives). Maybe that is not fair; I do believe that many in our security apparatus (even the criminals) do really love America and believe that they are doing what is best for our safety. But like Wall Street, they fail to take a broader, longer view of what safety truly means. Their mission at hand is not necessarily compatible to the overall mission of the US. And maybe like US law enforcement, we give the CIA more credit than they actually deserve in terms of brainpower and competence. Because it's pretty scary to ponder - are our protectors actually inept and immoral? Well it's better that we ask and find out, rather than just hope for the best and get a rude awakening (like 9/11, or Bay of Pigs, or Iran-Contra, and the list goes on and on).

Anyone who has worked a corporate job knows how easily it is for depts and teams to get fixated on their immediate objectives and success criteria, without considering the implications/significance on the overall company's success. I think this probably occurred at the CIA and NSA. Their narrow success criteria are "intel" and kills (in the case of the CIA), and they are the ones who get to tell their "customers" how good of a job they're doing. So without due diligence, attribution, and independent scrutiny, who is to say whether their intel and kills are actually low or high value? So of course, each morsel of info they gather is a home run, and each target they murder was an immediate threat to the US. They are incentivized to get as much info as possible, by whatever means available (and under Bush and Obama, they got the keys to the kingdom).

Sure there is some federal oversight, but most of it is classified and never gets public review. I don't think that is a very smart way to structure things. But we can't really expect the CIA and NSA to not go hog wild if we give them such freedom, mandate, and budgets. The bigger blame is on our civilian leaders who let the beast out of the cage, and the US public who failed to hold any of them accountable (until it was too late). And I doubt anyone will get fired or go to jail over the report, which adds to the tragedy. 

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Regarding points 1 and 2 I would offer a less cynical approach:
1.  It will endanger Americans because the truth being exposed is ugly.  I heard some official say there really isn't a good time to release this kind of info.  So pragmatically speaking, they should expect backlash.  So not a reason to stop the release but an accepted cost of release.
2.  Whether this is true or not I can imagine an insider wanting or needing it to be true.  Not that the ends justify the means but that the means, having been done, provided something worthwhile.  The alternative is all loss and nothing redeeming.
So hopefully some of these people are making these assertions for the right reasons instead of political ones.

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Thx, M. Yeah as you said, there's never really a good time to announce bad news. But if the CIA was worried about this stuff getting out and endangering Americans, then they shouldn't have done it in the first place. It's the act, not the revelation, that is damaging. And so far, I haven't heard of any attacks on US targets. An optimistic way of looking at it might be that foreigners will respect America more for investigating its dirty laundry rather than burying/denying it like Putin or Kim might.
Like the VA hearings a while back, this is of course is prompting calls for a "total review" of the Agency and cultural change, but as we know, that stuff happens slowly or never. Congress seems upset that they were misled/not fully informed, although the CIA denies it. No president (incl. Obama) has tried to stand up and rein in the CIA. There was some talk that Kennedy wanted to after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, but obviously didn't get the chance (and some believe that the CIA had a role in his death, but I don't mean to bring up conspiracies).

I think the timing of the report is slightly political, as the Dems are losing the Senate next month. But based on the sheer volume of the report, I guess it was years in the making. There was a push within the Dem party to investigate and try to hold someone accountable for the errors during the Bush years (they already did 9/11 and WMDs, so torture/Gitmo was the last one).

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Why are they beyond reproach? They were created by the state, and the state represents the citizenry. It's not like they're some rogue kingdom like North Korea that we have to handle with kid gloves. But I guess they do act like a "state within a state" at times.

Maybe our leaders don't have the stomach for it, but with a stroke of a pen, Congress and the President could require the CIA to expose its finances, data, and emails each year (to the right eyes of course), and we could appoint an independent watchdog that needs to be present at all high level intel and strategy meetings - and also has to approve any tier 1 action. Just knowing that someone is watching you is often enough to clean up behavior and reduce risk taking. And if this is done delicately, it won't degrade our security readiness at all. In fact, could be the opposite. Sure the CIA will bitch about it (no one likes a micromanager), but then they should have behaved better in the first place.

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Isn't that sort of not true though?  I mean the whole part that is in contention is whether and/or to what extent the CIA fed lies to the overseers.  The classic who watches the watchers dilemma.  So watchdog all you like there will never be a guarantee that an agency whose sole agenda is covert ops will be fully forthright with anyone but themselves.  Not to say we quit and take it but these gaps in information are sort of the cost of entry to this type of game.

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I see your point, but that is why the CIA can't be trusted to self-report truthfully (just like you have to take a defendant's testimony with a grain of salt unless corroborated by others). We have to go beyond the Congressional committees (even though they swear oaths when they testify), and have non-CIA people embedded at the Agency to watch the watchmen. It's also like SOX compliance, public companies have to hire a third-party audit firm for the accounting - they just can't tell the SEC to trust them that it's all good.  

Tuesday, July 29, 2014

An unfortunate consequence of the hunt for Osama Bin Laden

If you have followed the OBL story and/or saw "Zero Dark Thirty", maybe you are familiar with the fact that the CIA exploited a hepatitis vaccination program in Pakistan to locate OBL through DNA matching. Unfortunately, word about that got to the Pak Taliban, and now they don't trust any medical vaccination programs.
Humanity has been spending billions trying to eradicate polio for decades, and we are mostly successful everywhere BUT Pakistan. Since 2012, vaccination workers have been targeted and killed (about 60 dead), and families in Taliban-controlled areas are intimidated and discouraged from getting vaccinated.

The Taliban say that is is outrageous that the CIA would use a humanitarian program as cover for its operations. Of course it's also outrageous that they are killing medical workers and families trying to protect their kids, but their paranoia/savagery has some justification. Yet another unintended consequence of some smarty-pants at Langley (or Jessica Chastain) thinking this would be great way to find OBL. I understand if that was "the only way", but the most global and well-funded intel org in the world had 10 years to find OBL through other channels (incl. torture), and failed. So now they put thousands of lives at risk just to take out an ailing, marginalized terrorist. 

Friday, July 4, 2014

Some interesting links

Kinda sad, but by no means particular to the UK: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/08/police-fear-rise-domestic-violence-world-cup

Though I wonder if dom. violence rates are actually rising over time, or if reporting is just increasing (the latter being a positive change I suppose).

Hyundai has a different take on the emotional effects of a big football win on a culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7v5pf0aN2Q 

Also about the ISIS stuff: the CIA has been training "non-extremist, non-jihadist" Syrian rebels in Jordan in unconventional war tactics to fight the Assad regime. Some folks (ironically both on the far left and far right) are accusing our gov't of not screening those folks very well (a hard task) and inadvertently training fighters who later joined ISIS, J. Al-Nusra, and other extremist groups.
Granted I couldn't find reputable news sources that covered this story, but I can imagine that it's been hard to verify claims and apply journalistic rigor. However, it wouldn't be the first time (Viet Minh, Mujahadeen, Contras, right wing Cubans, etc.).

http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/mi6-the-cia-and-turkeys-rogue-game-in-syria-9256551.html

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Yet another red flag associated with fracking: http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=14-P13-00026&segmentID=2
In the Marcellus Shale in the East, fracking is surfacing radioactive rock material from deep underground, and wastewater is showing very high levels of radium-226 (associated with bone cancers, half-life of 5K years). Fortunately for the drillers, they got an environmental exception, because for everyone else - radioactive water needs special disposal. But in PA, it's treated the same as household sewage.

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

How the Dulles brothers made Kissinger and Cheney look like peaceniks

We don't hear much about these two (apart from the DC airport name), but their beliefs and actions literally shaped the Cold War, US global ambitions, and we are still dealing with the negative repercussions today.

Ike appointed John F. Dulles as his Sec. State and Allen Dulles as the CIA head. They were both corporate lawyers who represented, among others, United Fruit and the financiers of the Anglo-Persian Oil Company. Enough said. Ike basically gave them carte blanche authority to make enemies and "intervene" in any foreign country they saw fit, and they didn't hesitate: Guatemala, Iran, Congo, Cuba, Indonesia, and Vietnam ... basically our greatest hits. They were especially adamant about Iran, because under no circumstances could they tolerate a leader nationalizing oil reserves for the people, and renegotiating terms on foreign companies. Imagine the shockwaves to big business, and what message that would send to other countries.

Unlike Kennedy's "team of rivals" model, it was very dangerous for Ike to appoint two like-minded, corporate shill, biological brothers into the complementary (and sometime necessarily adversarial) positions of State and CIA. One side shapes foreign policy and strategy, and the other carries it out covertly. Or one side tries to make peace, while the other sows the seeds of war. It's playing with fire. Now they were basically one org, without any sanity checks or devil's advocate to say, "What happens after we overthrow Lumumba? (answer: civil war and genocide for decades)," or "Maybe we can't win in Vietnam."  I guess the Dulles' and their Cold War were enough to make General Ike warn the nation about the military-industrial complex upon his retirement.

The Dulleses believed that the US, its market economy, and its multinational corporations were exceptional and entitled to dominate the globe (because we were the good guys). Anyone who opposed these interests (regardless of the reason, like the crazy notions of self determination and liberty) were automatically evil monsters. It's OK for George Washington, but not for Third World leaders (esp. when they are sitting on natural resources). Clearly enemy #1 was communism, and by extension populist nationalism, because it went against the model of private capital might makes right, and neo-colonialism/imperialism. Any attempt to regulate or take power/profit away from US companies was as much of a threat to US security as nuclear missiles.

Apart from the direct and indirect violence & collateral damage (5M total deaths at least), militancy/extremism, and harm to our global reputation in most of the world, here is the Dulles' biggest legacy and curse on humanity: a pervasive culture of rejecting peace talks and the undermining of democracy.

After Stalin died, the USSR wanted to improve relations with the West. It was a great opportunity, but Dulles was the only major foreign leader to reject this overture (and pressured our allies to do the same), because he thought the Russians were too evil to talk to, and preferred that our conflict continue. Later, both sides' nuclear brinksmanship almost ended the world. During the North-South Vietnam diplomatic talks after the French withdrawal, most European powers felt that the party was over and they should learn to live with Ho Chi Minh. Dulles was the only one who felt that Ho could be beaten militarily if we stuck it out, and he persuaded Ike and Kennedy. We know how that turned out. But you can see this US hubris and misguided thinking carrying over to our negotiations (or lack theoreof) with Cuba, Iran, and North Korea over the years. We have certain beliefs about other people, and our stubbornness ends up prolonging/worsening conflicts and missing out on opportunities.

Why was the US so successful in overthrowing the democratic regimes in Iran, Guatemala, and Congo in the '50s? The author argues that it was because those societies (and their idealistic, civilian, center-left leaders - a.k.a. died-in-the-wool commies) were fairly open and democratic, thereby allowing foreign agitators access to covertly undermine the gov't and eventually launch a coup d'etat (with a pro-US dictator waiting in the wings). Later revolutionaries learned from those cases, and ruled more like repressive tyrants in order to defend against a possible US overthrow. Cuba, North Vietnam, the Islamic Republic of Iran, North Korea, etc. all became more paranoid and less democratic after the Dulles' time. It could just be coincidence, but at least in the case of Cuba, Che and Castro were quoted that they would not repeat the mistakes of Arbenz in Guatemala. They would repress and spy on their own people to make sure the CIA wasn't gaining a foothold.

So even though the US portrayed itself as the global example and defender of democracy, in fact its foreign policy under the Dulleses was terribly undemocratic, and motivated many others around the world to choose brutality over democracy too (tragically, during a time of global change that we will never get back, when we really could have forged tremendous social progress and peace). And the human race may never fully recover from the legacies of those dark times. To me, that is a much greater failure, security threat, and shame on the US than letting a few undeveloped countries elect a socialist leader, or try to nationalize their resources.  

Monday, June 10, 2013

Snowden's interview with the Guardian on PRISM

Here is the transcript of the leaker (Snowden) interview with Greenwald: http://www.policymic.com/articles/47355/edward-snowden-interview-transcript-full-text-read-the-guardian-s-entire-interview-with-the-man-who-leaked-prism/612597

This quote from Snowden was most salient to me:

"Because even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded. And the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude to where it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with. And attack you on that basis to sort to derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer."

In this context, it's very much a civil rights issue. Contrary to the gov't claims, Snowden says that the NSA-CIA is definitely snooping on domestic traffic and US citizens, not just foreigners suspected of terrorism by court order. But what if in the future the gov't focuses on other/more crimes? Contrary to our 1st Amend. right to free association, what if by accident you are at the wrong place at the wrong time or mistaken for a suspect (i.e. Ted Kennedy on the no-fly list)? Then the gov't has access to all your past telco and online history, and through the lens of presumed suspicion, may be able to use that data out of context to build a narrative that paints you in a very negative light. Because as we all know, if we cherry-pick various online actions from anyone, we can make a case that person X holds extreme beliefs, is mentally unstable, and could be a danger to the nation (think McCarthy meets Big Data). And the drone program makes it even more disturbing. Supposedly no US citizen can be secretly sentenced to death on US soil. But what if we travel overseas, and we are mis-identified as a terror plotter? Whoops, our bad! What impartial party is checking the data and findings before the final call? The investigator/prosecutor can't be an unbiased auditor too. And of course the suspect doesn't get to present his/her side of the case until it's too late. Heck even with our developed legal system, we erroneously incriminate, incarcerate, or even kill innocent Americans each year. So I have real concerns about judging people in secret using only "hearsay" online data.

We know gov'ts have agendas and may unfairly target certain people/groups (i.e. IRS scandal that we discussed). Therefore how can we trust them to manage these secret, sensitive, expansive data tools responsibly and ethically, with no one to play Devil's Advocate and defend those under suspicion (even people that "seem guilty")? I work in data analysis, and mistakes/wrong conclusions happen ALL THE TIME among pretty smart people. Humans want to confirm their own beliefs, and will massage/filter data and their own reasoning to get there. Like the problems in scientific research, to be truly rigorous you should use data to find all the ways your theory could be wrong, not the other way around. Databases are not perfect either, even Google's. What if a digit is switched here and there (i.e. Rogoff's "coding errors"), showing that you regularly call Pakistan instead of Paris? You can't perform QC on every data point of material, and a program of PRISM's scale is probably producing terabytes of data every day.

Frankly all these concerns can also be applied to the tech-telco companies that are the custodians of our data, and we have no choice but trust them (that is another debate for another day). Though at least with those firms, we do have channels for legal redress if they wrong us (even though it's very hard to subpoena evidence and beat their crack legal teams). Companies have messed up, apologized, and changed their practices (Google pulling out of Mainland China, Facebook terms of use, etc.). With orgs like the NSA and CIA, there is no oversight and redress, despite claims of "Congressional monitoring." The spooks show Congress only what they want them to see.

Friday, May 3, 2013

We've already lost the war on terror

Let's be honest, even Al Qaeda + Saddam + Kim at the apexes of their power did not really constitute an existential threat to the US and our interests. They are vile and inconvenient and sometime lethal and would be better behind bars, but they can't end our way of life. The Soviets could have ended us at a moment's notice, and we lived under that cloud for over 30 years. We bulked up our military and engaged in plenty of proxy dirty wars to gain some leverage, but we didn't reinvent our entire security apparatus and turn our backs on what made us great to try to destroy communism everywhere it bred.
But that is exactly what we have done post-9/11. The CIA changed from an intelligence gathering outfit (that was Congressionally prohibited from assassinating or torturing anyone, although they probably did it from time to time) into a shadow parallel military. Both they and the Pentagon now have Presidential authority to kill anyone, anywhere. Obama's admin. claims that B.O. wants to be the last word on the decisions so he can personally make sure that we are only killing people that we really must kill. And he is the Chosen One, so we can trust that he is making the right call every time - even though the info that he is basing the decision on is pre-filtered and doctored by military handlers whose career progression is based on body counts. Hey Mr. ConLaw prof - that is why we have courts, juries, and trials to reduce the risk of bias and error (and our courts still get plenty of cases wrong too, even capital punishments, so how will you and your boys do better?). Now there is no due process, no evidence sharing, just a drone strike or a wetwork team kicking down a door in the middle of the night.
The terrorists know they could never end the USA, even if their dreams came true and they got a hold of fissile material and diplomat access to our homeland. The USA is a lot more than just our land, buildings, people, and money. The USA is an idea, and a set of values worth practicing and propagating (and in some cases fighting for). The American ideas of justice, human rights, and egalitarianism are almost unprecedented in history - and that is what we've lost. The terrorists didn't take it from us, we jettisoned it of our own accord. Ostensibly to make us safer, but it was ultimately our call. And a liberal president did a lot of the damage. As Jeremy Scahill said, Obama's sad legacy is selling undemocratic, un-American behaviors to the liberal base. Sure the economy is top on our minds, and no one cares of some nameless ragheads get whacked, so we are guilty too because we didn't protest when Obama betrayed America's values (at the very least, he rolled over when the military-intelligence community wanted to surpass the Bush years and cross the line). Scahill is legit and trustworthy - he is the guy who exposed Blackwater's BS in Iraq, and has taken on warlords for years (fighting the sword with the pen).
We crossed that line so far we can't even see it in the dust behind us. Some might say it's no big deal, and it's not like we set up death camps. But is the bar that low? Over a hundred human beings are being held indefinitely at Gitmo without charge and without disclosing evidence against them. If they are so dangerous, then put them on trial and prove it. We kidnapped and exported hundreds of terror "suspects" to repressive nations to be tortured (ironically Syria helped us with that during the Bush years, and the money we paid them for services rendered probably bought weapons that are now being used against the rebels). Our most elite soldiers have the authority to raid any private home in Afghanistan just because some shady informants claimed that a baddie lives there (when in fact they are just using the US to settle a blood feud). And with the Al-Awlaki case, our government has sanctioned the killing of a US citizen overseas in total violation of their civil rights and international law. And what was his crime? Hate speech. Similar speech that the KKK, redneck militias, and even some radio hosts routinely get away with. But they're not Muslims. What's worse is I just learned the US also drone killed Al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son and also US citizen (see Democracy Now link). What was his crime? As far as I know, he had the wrong father. He "may" become a threat some day. What the hell are we thinking? What happened to innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? You can't be guilty of something you haven't done yet. It's pathetic that we even need to be having this discussion.

What kind of nation does those things? Red China - guilty on some counts but not all. Iran - ditto. Cuba - they're the Red Cross compared to us. Maybe the USSR and Nazi Germany are the only modern regimes that come close. If we have resorted to such tactics to "defend ourselves against radical Islam", then we have lost the war on terror. And now our jingoism and vengeance are coming down on Tsarnaev. He is going to get mob justice at best, and it's scary to hear the things that even some prominent politicians and media personalities are saying about what we should do to him.
Yes, I know that some of those outrageous tactics have "done some good" for us, killed "bad people", and maybe averted attacks (or maybe they didn't). But what about all the side effects? As I said, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, and drones are some of the top reasons why Muslims hate us, and are powerful Jihadi recruiting tools. A US hit squad accidentally took out an Afghan police commander and his family (including 2 pregnant women), who was accused of being a Taliban from bad intel. When the soldiers realized it, they tried to sanitize the crime scene and told the town that the Taliban actually killed the family, but the truth got out. He and his family risked their lives for years to help the US fight the Taliban, but now after this tragedy and outrage, they are so mad they want to blow up Americans. We are losing the war on terror when we turn devoted friends into enraged enemies.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LG08Df01.html (another indication that we have lost: this story is totally absent in mainstream Western media, assuming it's true)
Maybe some are giving Osama too much credit, but accounts suggest that he knew Al Qaeda could never defeat America and establish a global Caliphate. But he wanted to execute some sufficiently shocking attacks to whip America into a panicked frenzy. We would bankrupt ourselves foolishly trying to defend every square inch of our land (remember how we even stationed troops at the Mall of America after 9/11?). And our hubris would lead us to invade Muslim lands like the Crusaders and imperialists who came before us. We would have to fight on their terms, and they knew they could outlast us as we sacrifice our brave young men to an unwinnable situation. Terrorism (and even guerrilla war to some extent) is not about destroying one's enemy. It's about generating enough shock and fear to get your enemy to make bad decisions and engage in detrimental behavior. Then you just sit back and let your enemy do the work for you. And we're doing a heckuva job with that. Muslim extremists have suffered heavy losses in this war, and Al Qaeda is barely what it was in 2001, but the America idea is the bigger loser.

Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Turley: Obama "devastating" for civil liberties

Civil libertarians have long had a dysfunctional relationship with the Democratic Party, which treats them as a captive voting bloc with nowhere else to turn in elections. - J Turley

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/29/opinion/la-oe-turley-civil-liberties-20110929

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/10/141213273/op-ed-obama-devastating-for-civil-liberties

I know we discussed this in the past about Obama's campaign pledges to promote civil rights and gov. transparency, but as president he has actually increased secrecy and expanded the powers of the US terrorism-industrial-complex (even over Bush levels), sometimes at the expense of the rules of war, civil liberties, and other laws/values. I guess the calculation was simple for Obama: it was more important to get the support of the military-intel community than the civil libertarians, so he made decisions to favor the former. Especially with the economy/jobs front-and-center, I guess his people felt that civil rights won't be a critical issue in 2012, especially when his yet-unnamed GOP rival would probably endorse and harsher stance on executive privilege and the security-vs-rights debate.

So that's where we stand: the GOP isn't mad at Obama because terror plots are being thwarted and Al Qaeda leaders are getting whacked. Though I'm sure they'd prefer to get the credit, and probably feel that Obama is just the lucky executor of the good Bush-neocon policies that are now bearing fruit. Any consolidation of executive power and trimming of Congressional/legal/regulatory red tape is probably good for them. They know they'll recapture the White House at some point, and then it's pedal to the metal.

But from the left, Turley likens it to Stockholm Syndrome. We've fallen in love with our captor, just because he's the first black president, a young, handsome, charismatic chap, the game-changer, the chosen one, whatever other superlative. We aren't happy with what he's doing, but we just can't allow ourselves to oppose him and admit that we were wrong. So like a kid without discipline, he keeps taking and pulling, and taking and pulling, because we do nothing. The Dems bet big on this guy, and now we're stuck with him. It's very hard for a parent to admit that their kid is a bad seed because they still love him.

Yes it's true that campaigning is different than leading, so maybe Obama is under more constraints now and exposed to different information, which has changed his views. But any leader under crisis has experienced that, and some still decided to stand up for their beliefs despite the political consequences, while others folded like cowards and played it safe. Some things he has done are just flat wrong, and it's not like lives were imminently at stake. Yes it's possible that a GOP president may be worse. But if we were voting between Hitler and Napoleon, would we be content supporting Napoleon because he was just slightly better? And let's remember that Obama has in fact exceeded Bush on many secrecy and rights violations issues. We've dug ourselves into quite a hole with this one.

We can't allow Obama to get away with making a blanket promise to not prosecute any Bush-era people or CIA employees/affiliates for torture or other abuses, and squash any private investigations. I know closing Gitmo didn't work out for him (he was naive to think it would be easy), and these terror issues are a legal nightmare. Yes, justice is hard work, but that's what separates us from cave men. Would we rather condone abuses power, shadow governments, and selective application of the law like the enemy regimes we routinely denounce? People must be held accountable for their crimes, or there's no deterrent for future criminality. Poking around at the CIA and Pentagon is going to cause some problems for a president, but sometimes avoiding conflict and failing to do the right thing is worse. Same thing with the Wall St. investigations, no one goes to jail or gets punished, so what incentive do they have to shape up? Our democracy and republic exist and survive because of checks-and-balances on power. If the president shirks that responsibility, and even blocks Congress from intervening, what is to stop the security establishment from running amok, like they have always done in similar loose situations throughout history?

US soldiers are standing trial for abusing or killing civilians during our wars. They are on the front lines fighting for their country, paid slave wages, and still have to answer for crimes if they err. Why should CIA sociopaths, reckless Blackwater mercenaries, and neocon paper-pushers be exempt? I have particular contempt for the fat suits drafting policies in DC. These chickenhawks mostly never sacrificed an ounce of sweat for America, yet they are making decisions that are destroying innocent families and creating all sorts of unanticipated blowback for us, in between their tee times and K St. power lunches. Such patriots. The hubris. And now Obama, the Peace Prize Laureate, has thrown his hat in with them.

Friday, September 9, 2011

Looking back on 9/11 and the "terror industrial complex" it spawned

Maybe you all are like me, already sick of the emotionally-manipulative 9/11 remembrance content all over the mainstream media. Instead of more footage of twisted rubble, crying women, and the stars-and-stripes, how about something that's actually thought-provoking:

http://www.npr.org/2011/09/06/140056904/the-top-secret-america-created-after-9-11

Some of this we already know, but the Pulitzer-winning author Diana Priest has documented many ways that the secrecy-antiterrorism industry has exploded since 9/11... to a point that it is literally "out of control" as evaluated by security experts. No one knows how much we are spending, what we are doing, and who we are employing. The gov't was so unprepared for this growth that they needed to hire contractors to be able to run background checks on all the new contractors they were hiring. It's incredible: now 800,000 Americans, or 1 in 375 of us, hold top-secret clearances (many of them have not taken loyalty oaths to defend the US, and instead serve the profit motive). For all the GOP complaints about the size of gov't and its inability to sustainably create jobs - I guess they meant all other industries but this one.

And security contractors are paid much more than similar "public servants", so the CIA saw a brain drain where junior analysts would accrue the necessary year or so to acquire the basic skills sought by the security firms. They would then leave the CIA, get hired by Blackwater types, and do the exact same job for 3X pay, with the gov't and ultimately taxpayers on the hook to cover the higher expense.

If we thought CIA was covert, they are getting one-upped by JSOC (Joint Spec Ops Cmd, that used to do hostage rescue but now is the gov'ts elite hit squad that nailed Bin Laden and others). JSOC has all the power and resources of the CIA (if not more), yet isn't bound by law to report its activities to Congress or others. Obama has given them the green light to step up their activities, and to their credit they have killed/captured many more "terrorists" than the CIA. But it is scary that some secret org can decide to put a name on a kill list, and then just go out and do it without asking anyone for permission (yet are funded by us). They represent us but don't answer to us, so we get the blowback if they mess up (like errant drone strikes in Pakistan whipping up anti-Americanism).

Let's also remember all this stuff on the anniversary of 9/11, including the tens of thousands of non-Americans who have died as the result of our wars.

Monday, January 11, 2010

The CIA in the War on Terror


"And I think what one of the things this incident shows is just how - I mean, you could say desperate, but certainly eager - the CIA is for this kind of intelligence. He was promising kind of the big haul. He was going to give the location or at least give good intelligence about perhaps the number two operative in al-Qaida, Ayman al-Zawahiri. So the CIA brought its number two official from Kabul all the way to Khost for the meeting... I mean, [the drone bombing program is] nothing short of a war. It's a campaign going on, a military, quasi-military campaign that the CIA is carrying out and which the CIA is quite proud of, actually. They think that this is kind of the most effective thing that the U.S. government has right now to deal with al-Qaida."
- M Mazzetti, NYT nat. security correspondent

"If you have different personalities down range, everybody's worried about their rice bowls, and the next thing you know you have this kind of problem. People aren't talking to each other... I don't think we have any choice [that the CIA has to become a stronger paramilitary entity]. I do think we need to get a lot better at it. I don't think we have completed the evolution from a Cold War entity to what we need... I think it's going to take a consensus between the Congress and the president to really say we got to make some fundamental changes... We're still essentially using the same machine we had on September 10th, 2001."
- C Faddis, CIA

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Maybe you heard about the "double agent" Jordanian doctor who killed 6 CIA employees and a Jordanian Intel officer at a forward operating base in Afghanistan. Agents were supposedly trying to turn him into an asset, because he claimed to have knowledge of the location of a top Al Qaeda figure. But instead, he detonated a suicide vest during his debriefing, after he was invited to the base and not frisked. So instead of finding Zawahiri, we lost decades of cumulative intelligence expertise and called our entire human intel apparatus in that country into question. The Jordanian used to work in Palestinian refugee camps, and probably witnessed a lot of the suffering caused by the Arab-Israeli conflicts. He was a well-known anti-Western Islamic blogger too, but Jordanian Intel and the CIA seemed to think they had "de-radicalized" him, and he continued to blog just to maintain appearances.

Our new War on Terror is a bizarre chapter in the history of combat, because literally we have the conventional armed forces, private mercenaries, and the CIA all waging parallel wars and conducting independent operations in the same theater of battle. And in some cases, maybe the parties are not fully cooperating or even aware of the other's actions, but in fact are competing for targets/intel and unintentionally undermining overall strategy. Maybe you heard about reports of Blackwater Worldwide employees working with the CIA on raids in Iraq, or in some cases working on their own (under who's orders?), which has angered many in DC. Actually no different than the insurgents, the mercenaries were not trained by our government and have no legal accountability. Their only legitimacy is a contract from Baghdad (that we forced them to sign) permitting them to do business in-country until a given expiration date. Yet they are highly paid, heavily armed, and (were) pursuing high-value targets in Iraq. Since Afghanistan is even more Wild West (they don't even have a single km of railroad), I can only imagine what unauthorized activities may go unmonitored. Though due to the terrain and lack of infrastructure, aerial drones seem to be the tool of choice.

I guess a lot of the War on Terror is assassinations and intel gathering (and torture), so of course the CIA should play a prominent role, but they are also used to working without rules and oversight. They have already received some bad publicity over rendition flights, Abu Ghraib, and Gitmo, but they have probably also gathered intel (by what means, we may never know) that helped prevent some attacks on the West. Prior to our full invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11, the CIA and special ops forces did heavily pursue Al Qaeda at the end of 2001 and decimate much of Osama's core members (they may have even wounded him at Tora Bora). But political hesitation and territorial disputes by Bush's cabinet stalled their advance and allowed the Al Qaeda survivors to escape to Pakistan.

Also the CIA may not have the best reputation in Afghanistan due to the events at the end of the Soviet occupation. While the CIA unofficially armed and trained the Mujahadeen, through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence, to improve their insurgent capabilities (as depicted in "Charlie Wilson's War", and see my previous posting: http://worldaffairs-manwnoname.blogspot.com/2008/05/charlie-wilsons-war-and-bs-revisionist.html), after the Soviet withdrawal the US let the nation deteriorate into civil war and Islamic fundamentalism. Stemming from Vietnam, I think the US defense establishment is very sensitive about being labeled as people who abandon their friends. But the perception in Afghanistan was that the CIA was only interested in using the Muslims to spill blood fighting the rival Soviets, and afterward the US couldn't care less about their problems.

I have no doubt that many in the CIA are dedicated patriots with great talent for their difficult job, and they have saved American lives over the years. But they also have that reputation (deservedly in some cases) of just using people to accomplish their narrow objectives. As depicted in films like "Spy Game", "Syriana", and "Body of Lies", the CIA are arrogant, cocksure, scheming, pathologically ambitious, and uncaring. Flesh and blood people become expendable "assets", little respect is shown to allies, pissing contests abound, and the mission always comes first despite what broken laws or collateral damage may ensue. Obviously Hollywood's depiction is sensational, but also plays out in reality: the Iran-Contra scandal, and more recently Extraordinary Rendition, and just last year 2 high-level employees were dismissed for a sex scandal and corruption.

If many Americans are already suspicious of the CIA after Watergate and whatnot, just imagine how the rest of the world, and specifically parts of the Muslim world caught in our wars, feel about the CIA. I know it is a dirty job and the CIA works with lying, treacherous scumbags. You use me and I use you. I think we all accept that as part of the spy game, but then they shouldn't expect locals to go out of their way to help us, especially when helping us could be viewed as a betrayal of their faith and heritage. They know that we don't give a hoot about them, and when they are no longer useful to us, we will cut them loose (like all the Iraqi translators who risked their lives and their families to help us, and we don't even compensate their next of kin with money or visas after they are killed). Potential assets and their affiliates also know that we are very interested in them, which may leave us vulnerable as we saw in Afghanistan. Many foreign intelligence agencies that we work with also probably know that the CIA looks down on them and won't share much useful information. In a more public example, our close ally Italy has issued warrants for the arrests of several CIA operatives relating to the kidnapping of an Islamic cleric in Italy. Though there probably was a secret NATO agreement to permit CIA agents to "do their thing" in Europe, Italian laws were broken. Everyone's a liar and there is no trust; actually it's a miracle that anyone can get reliable human intel these days. Maybe the CIA officers who were killed by the Jordanian bomber were so ambitious to get credit for assassinating some Al Qaeda big shot, that they ignored their better judgment and suspicions about him. Obviously they violated base security protocol to allow the bomber to do such damage, and we may never know what really happened.

But tragic events such as this, or the public burning of private security guards in Iraq a few years ago, should show that occupied peoples do not approve of some of our methods. I would hope that the Cold War taught us that it's wrong for global powers to meddle in Third World nations and treat their people like chess pawns in a high-stakes power game. True alliances and partnerships are built on honesty and respect. That is why I am dubious of our uniquely intimate alliance with Israel, since Israel doesn't seem to heed our concerns very often (calls to end heavy shelling in Gaza or settlement building in the Occupied Territories often go ignored), and Mossad agents are occasionally caught spying in the US. If that is how Israel treats its closest friend, I wouldn't want to be her enemy. But getting back to the CIA in the War on Terror, I know a lot of the challenges they face are unprecedented. So maybe new approaches and more sensitive techniques are appropriate, instead of the same old macho spycraft. Fortunately much of our intel is gathered electronically, thereby reducing the human evil factor. I know CIA agents can't coddle terrorists and take them to tablecloth dinners (well, the Algiers station chief dismissed over his sex scandal often took assets to strip shows to turn them), but we have to move beyond turf wars and waterboarding. Many government agencies resist change or outside advice, and I think the CIA takes it to another level. After almost a decade since 9/11, they and the military still have a recruiting shortage of Arabic speakers and Mideast experts.

Expanding these points to the larger War on Terror, it is clear that there is a sea change. Domestic law enforcement apprehended more suspected terrorists (and foiled potential attacks) in 2009 than the previous 4 years combined. This coincides with increased covert drone attacks and raids on the Pakistani border that claimed to kill Al Qaeda leaders. In fact, under Obama we have killed more alleged Qaeda leaders than during Bush's last 3 years in office. So Al Qaeda is hurt badly, getting desperate, and forced to adapt. They are stepping up their plans to attack the West, and since all failed, we can only assume that they were more rushed and frantic with their planning. But another new development is that the alleged attackers were mostly non-Arabs from Al Qaeda affiliate groups. They visited Somalia or Yemen. So Al Qaeda rebuilt after 9/11 and gained enough strength to destabilize Pakistan and Afghanistan in recent years. But now they are getting hit harder, and forced to go underground again. But they are sending their people to friendly organizations in other parts of the world under less US scrutiny. And that seems to be where this new breed of attacker is emerging from. This illustrates the problem with counter-terrorism and unconventional war in this globalized world. We might smash the vase, but the fragments of porcelain spread everywhere and slip through our fingers. So now we have a bigger mess on our hands. Maybe it was better when Al Qaeda was more complacent and contained in the Pakistan border areas. Just like our mistake with Saddam and Iraq, sometimes it's better to tolerate a monster in a cage, then try to completely destroy that monster and create dozens of new ones.

" 'In essence, these [Al Qaeda] operatives are being sent out as force multipliers, to plus up or strengthen or to enhance the capabilities of local and region allies,' says [Georgetown Univ. security expert B Hoffman]. He believes they are attempting to 'overwhelm the U.S. and other enemies with a strategy that amounts to death by 1,000 cuts.' "
-NPR

So even though we lucked out on Christmas, we can't be lucky forever. Maybe we should rethink our tactics, because a minimal, contained, centralized terror threat, while worse than an absence of terrorism, is much better than a dispersed, multiplying terror threat.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122436089
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122319659
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/12317/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Afghanistan
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/10/AR2009121004700.html?wprss=rss_politics
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/19/AR2009031904134.html
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/1/12/worldupdates/2010-01-12T023641Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-453165-1&sec=Worldupdates
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6732897.stm

Saturday, April 18, 2009

Obama and CIA torture immunity


"This is a time for reflection, not retribution." - President Barack Obama

"Justice deferred is justice denied." - Congresswoman Diane Watson, at the 50th Anniversary of Brown vs. Board of Education, a ruling that allowed blacks like Watson and Obama to get a quality education that would allow them to one day run for public office.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_torture_memos_reaction
http://www.kqed.org/epArchive/R904170900 (first 10 minutes of the interview on this subject)

So Obama and Holder have decided to declassify the CIA memos that describe the torture techniques used during the interrogations of the Bush years. Some have praised that move. This shows that they are all about decency, change, and transparency, right? Well, the CIA has been fighting the release of these documents to the public for years, and ostensibly, Obama has only decided to finally do it because the ACLU lawsuit on the matter looks surely to prevail.

But even worse, he has declared immunity for the CIA personnel who participated in the tortures. He said that those people were patriots who were trying to protect America, and were given assurances by Bush's Justice Dept. that what they were doing was legal. But the same can be said of Nazi concentration camp guards. Did the Nuremberg Commission buy that excuse? They were following orders, they were assured it was ok, they did it for their country.

But the rules of war (and US military rules) state that soldiers have a DUTY to disobey unlawful orders. I don't know about CIA regulations, but many of the jailers and torturers were soldiers borrowed by the CIA for unofficial duties. If someone waves a paper in front of your face saying it's ok to execute the prisoners in your care, what will you do? Hopefully you will disobey because you know that it's wrong and others will punish you when the dust settles, even if at the moment your superiors reassure you that it's legal. But torture is different than execution, right? Is it? Detainees have died in US custody due to "harsh interrogation" that was supposed to be non-life-threatening. Sleep deprivation, stress positions, exposure to severe cold, and beatings with blunt objects don't leave visible damage, but the trauma killed several detainees with health ailments. They could even kill healthy people. At least 3 Gitmo detainees committed suicide, either out of desperation for their predicament, ideological conviction, or a coverup for murder. So when a jailer is ordered to do certain things to a detainee that he is assured are legal, and the physical reaction by the detainee is urination, screaming, vomiting, and even unconsciousness - do you continue as if everything is kosher? Not once do you feel that as a US serviceperson and conscientious citizen, you have the obligation to question whether it is right? Not once as a human do you stop and wonder why you have to cause so much pain to a defenseless stranger (who hasn't even been charged with a crime and has not seen any evidence against them), and whether such brutality is even helping national security? People who didn't stop to ponder those questions are criminals; there's no way around it Obama.

http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/may21-04/disobey.htm
http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/677.html?task=view
http://www.truthout.org/article/three-guantanamo-detainees-die-suicides-army-says

The world still looks up to us for moral leadership and social justice (I have no idea why). What kind of message does this send? How can we protest Darfur atrocities, or journalists detained and tortured in Iran? How can we mend fences with the skeptical, angry Muslim world? And beyond that, how do we encourage them to reform politically and respect the rule of law, when we are exonerating the criminals among us? At least jail a couple of Company slackers who had poor performance records anyway, and force some spooks to resign as early retirement with a nice pension. Do something superficial at least, but don't just try to sweep it under the rug as if nothing is wrong. Obama said he would respect the opinion of his AG on the matter, but that is a cop-out. Obviously prosecuting CIA torturers is a legal nightmare. It's probably a tougher challenge than prosecuting terror suspects. Most of these crimes happened years ago overseas, and evidence is shaky at best (remember how the CIA admitted to destroying hours of interrogation and torture videos?). The chain of command is not evident. Well, I'm not expecting convictions and speedy justice, but at least do a little digging around. If the DoJ went after allegedly corrupt US legislators with so much zeal (and made plenty of stupid errors along the way), then I think we can at least try to build some cases against petty CIA torturers, if not the ex-leaders who deployed them. But politics win the day again, and Obama doesn't want to appear that he is on a "partisan witch-hunt", fearing that the GOP may circle the wagons and further impede his ambitious economic recovery efforts.

Obama on the campaign trail, April. 4, 2008:

What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity... I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/08/04/obama/

I think it should be obvious to a law professor that you don't know if a crime has been committed unless you investigate first. So investigate instead of sweeping it under the rug! Both Obama and Holder have been quoted proclaiming unequivocally that waterboarding is torture. Warterboarding was a sanctioned technique in the declassified CIA memos. Torture is illegal according the US Army Field Manual, Geneva Conventions, and many other codes. "No one is above the law". "Genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies?" Well torture is a really bad policy as well as a genuine crime, and no one is above the law, right? Even the CIA. But I am sure Obama and Co. don't want to piss off the spooks, whom they will need to help defend America, assist our allies, and win our overseas wars. Obama already nominated an outsider to head the CIA, probably insulting the senior staff who were looking for a promotion. He doesn't want to hurt morale any further, even at the cost of justice.